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T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East, 2008

September 30, 2008 @ 10:56 am · Filed Under Domain Development, Domain Parking Alternatives, T.R.A.F.F.I.C.

I just got back from the Targeted Traffic conference that was held in New York this past week.  It was my second time attending this conference.  My first time was earlier this year in Vegas.  Although I saw many of the same faces, I found the focus and interests of most people to be much different.

It was earlier in the year when Google began cracking down on web sites (and parked pages) in their AdSense content network.  Of course, they now assign a quality score to web site pages in an attempt to estimate the click-through value to advertisers on a given web site.  Although that made for a real boost in quality traffic for an advertiser, it truly hurt the bottom lines of many domainers that depend on the revenues their parked pages provide.

So now that these domainers' pocket books have been affected, they're taking a very serious look at how development can increase their revenues.  Unfortunately though, most seem to be looking for an easy journey through development that will increase their earnings without taking up too much of their time.  Let's face it, many of these people own thousands of domains.  Properly developing one domain is tough enough.

There were two main solutions at the conference that were getting the bulk of the attention, and I can't help but be concerned for the domain owner's well being if these avenues are utilized.  The two companies I'm referring to are WhyPark and EVO Landing.  Both of these business models are based upon attracting traffic from search engines utilizing glorified content scraping tools.  Sure, it produces results in the short term, but some people are quickly realizing it's not a viable long-term solution.

What's wrong with these types of fast content solutions?

I made a post about EVO Landing that I would highly encourage people to read.  Essentially, Google seems to be looking at these sites as pure duplicate content and in many cases is banning them from their search index.  Given that Google damn near monopolizes the search market, getting banned from their results has got to be about the single worst thing that could happen to your domain.  And as best as I can tell, WhyPark sites aren't doing much better... unless you're willing to add in your own unique content on top of their "scraped" information.  But if a domainer is going to take the time to do this, why not just create a site that's purely unique content and not take the duplicate content hit from Google?

Another solution that scares me...

There was also some buzz about mini-sites.  A mini-site is a web site that houses only a few pages that each hold somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 words per page.  There was a company offering mini-sites there at $250 per domain.  Most developers refer to these as MFA (Made for AdSense) sites.  Google has been cracking down on these in the SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages) as well.  But just like the content scraping solutions, they tend to offer a boost of traffic right after they're live and slowly trickle back to near worthless traffic numbers.  Although Google doesn't seem to ban these types of domains, it sure seems that they're getting suppressed (in my opinion/experience a worse scenario).

The problem with all of this is that domainers are domainers.  Most of them are speculating on the value of an individual domain name, regardless of what kind of traffic it receives from search engines.  So like lemmings, many of these people will follow these solutions for short term gain.  I personally spoke with many people at the conference and the idea of being banned or suppressed by a search engine was so far over the heads of so many attendees that those conversations were often one-sided.  Basically those conversations were me explaining to a domainer that Google does ban domains and that it truly can have a negative effect on the value of their domains.

What should domainers be doing now?

Don't get me wrong... I think domain development is a great idea... if it's done properly.  That being the case, someone who owns a few thousand domains can't possibly take the correct paths to development.  My suggestion - pick only a few of the gems out of your portfolio.  FOCUS on developing those... ONE at a time.  Learn from the situations you face along the way.  Once you feel comfortable with the process give ONE more a try.  Don't be in a rush.  Learn from every hurdle you overcome and every stumble you get back up from.  As for those thousands of other domains you own - keep them parked.  There's still good money there and chances are it could get better as Google gets better at providing proper quality scores.

What will future TRAFFIC conferences be about?

Eventually, many domainers will walk down the paths of development.  We're talking about a pretty savvy group of people here who tend to learn and quickly adapt to their business environment.  My guess is that many domainers will get a feel for just how profitable a well developed domain can be and they'll start looking for more premium domains to tackle.  The only problem is that they'll quickly become aware of how important search engines (Google in particular) are to that business model and they'll begin demanding better knowledge about the history of the domain they're considering buying.  Is this domain already banned by Google?  Is it being suppressed by Google?  Have past development efforts been attempted?  How did those work out?

I also see more attention being placed away from development and focused on selling domains to the appropriate end users.  That is a science all its own and there are still many domain holders that have yet to explore the options available to them there.

In any event, the future is sure to prove interesting.  It always has in the past.

TRAFFIC West, 2008

September 22, 2008 @ 4:23 pm · Filed Under Domain Development, T.R.A.F.F.I.C.

I’ve decided to go back and provide an analysis of my original trip to the Target Traffic conference in Las Vegas, 2008.  Although I had tracked some of the happenings of the TRAFFIC conference for about a year prior, I never felt the need to actually attend.  On a whim, I decided to attend the Vegas conference with the primary intentions of visiting Moniker’s live auction.

Within my first few hours at the conference I realized that it was a networking wonderland. I’ve never attended a conference where the attendees were all so intensely curious about what the other is doing.  Rick and Howard create such a warm atmosphere that even the shyest of people would have no choice but to collect the business cards of at least 20 of their colleagues while attending.

I attended TRAFFIC West, 2008 representing myself as a partner in a (then potential) 3-person LLC that was interested in picking up a few quality domains with the intentions of developing them into leading web sites in their respective niches.  I left that conference with 6 great domain names.  Although only one did not get developed, there are 3 that are truly worth mentioning as they are not only great domains, but ideal brand names: DVDs.com, ConsultingFirms.com and AlaskanKingCrab.com.  All three sites are now (September, 2008) live and in an ongoing development/analysis phase.  They were great buys and each is climbing in the search engines for its respective niche.

Because I’ve been receptive to joint-venture partnerships, I quickly made some interesting contacts during those three days in Vegas… not the least of which led me to begin development of Bar.com – what an amazing domain.

What I Noticed

I quickly realized that this conference was different from others in another way – these people are almost entirely domainers.  There are very few developers in the crowd.  However, the buzz to begin development was in the air in Vegas.  People were talking about needing to get started on developing their domains, but not many had taken any serious steps toward action.  These were premium domain holders, many of whom had been burned by developing near the dot com bubble burst and were very hesitant to throw more dollars in that direction.

There didn't seem to be much of an urgency to develop and most people that I spoke with left the conference with only thoughts of development lingering in their minds.

Domain Development - Should I develop this domain?

September 21, 2008 @ 8:11 am · Filed Under Domain Development

One of the main questions many people ask me is "Should I develop this domain?"  So I figured I might as well lay out my criteria for whether or not a domain is worth developing.  This is how I analyze whether or not a domain has the proper keywords and relative search volume for me to invest the time and money it requires to properly develop a web property.

What kind of domain is it?
To me, there are 4 types of domains - generic keyword domains, mis-types, trade/copyright included domains and the types of domains whose name just sounds good... something memorable.  In my opinion, you shouldn't even hold trade/copyright domains or mis-type domains in your portfolio, so both of those are out (* see note below).  A good sounding domain is essentially either a speculative investment or it corresponds to a development idea you already have.  Both can be a good situation, but don't really apply here.  So therefore, only solid, generic keyword domains pass the test.

Does the domain contain any stop words?
A stop word is a word that search engines overlook when performing a search (i.e. the, a, and, or, etc.).  If the domain contains any "stop words" you can also through it out at this point.  That's not to say the domain can't be developed if it fits a specific circumstance.  I'm just trying to create a general guideline here.

How many words does the domain contain?
So we've established that you've got a domain that's pure generic keywords in it.  How many?  If it's more than 3, it's probably not worth developing.  And if it's 3, then that 3 word phrase better get a great deal of search volume (AlaskanKingCrab.com comes to mind here... one I'm involved with).  If it's a one or two word generic, it's still a great candidate.

Are we looking at root words here?
Are the words in the domain root words or do they contain some sort of prefix or suffix that restricts their meaning?  I'm not talking singular or plural yet, so let's not get confused.  An example root word might be 'network.'  The domain network.com would be a much better candidate for development than networked.com... but be careful on this one, because networking.com could also make for a great web site.  This criteria's kinda fuzzy, but for most situations, root words are the best for development as they generally provide more development branches.

How many potential development branches are involved?
Okay, I just made that term up.  I like it though... and I just checked and it's available in both singular and plural forms in a .com.  Ugh, my domianerdom (is that a word?  It's available too) shines through.  Anyhow, back to how many development branches.  Think of the root word (or words) as the tree in your web site.  The branches would be the words that, when attached to the words(s) in the domain, make up phrases that receive fair amounts of search volume.  Many call these long-tail phrases.  Do those additional phrases seem to lead to different development areas of your domain?  Is the search volume high enough on those branches to warrant development of separate sections of your web site dedicated to those longer-tail phrases?

How much search volume are we looking at?
If you've gotten to this point and your domain is still a good candidate then it's time to start looking at raw numbers.  Google has a great tool that will help us with this free of charge.  Their AdWords Keyword Tool will tell us the number of times a given phrase is search upon in Google for a given month.

Again, it gets fuzzy here.  For me though the keyword that the domain holds should have at least a search volume in the tens of thousands range.  And even at that point, the monetization efforts need to have great payouts to make it worth while.  Once we get into the hundreds of thousands range, we're talking about a much safer bet.  And getting into the millions is almost a lock for development.

What's the TLD?
There is really so much more to this than the scope of this blog entry can handle, but let's just say that if it isn't a .com then it better be a great .net or .org.  And if it's anything else (other than some of the more popular ccTLD's like .co.uk) then it needs to evaluated on an individual basis.  But basically, .com is king.  I personally require that any joint-venture development be done on .com only.

Singular or plural?
This criteria really depends on the individual circumstance.  And there is really no way to place a generic restriction on whether or not to develop it.  In some cases, it doesn't even matter.  A great one word domain, whether singular or plural, can almost always be developed well.  Whether or not it's singular or plural may change how it should be developed though (maybe a topic of conversation at another time).

There are many, many more factors that I didn't even touch on here, but hopefully that gets the ball rolling in your mind.  The fact of the matter is that each domain should be evaluated on an individual basis to determine if it's a prime candidate for development.

If you're looking to develop a premium keyword domain and you're not sure where to start, I may be interested in hearing from you.  I do involve myself in joint-0venture domain development and I'm always happy to consider the gems in any portfolio.  If you're not much for the idea of a joint-venture, then you may also be interested in a little consulting to point you in the right direction of getting that domain developed properly.  Feel free to use the contact form here on the site to get in touch with me.  Just be sure to address me (Jeff) in the top of your message and I'll be sure to get it.

* Note about mis-types (personal disclosure)
I mentioned above that you should not even hold mis-type domains.  Just to fully disclose something, I personally hold a domain that does receive mis-type traffic, but I originally purchased it before it was even an issue.  I own Slackr.com.  I bought it because I thought it was a domain that could provide online entertainment and that it had a catchy, memorable name... think flickr.com - see what I mean?  About 3 or 4 months after I bought the name, the Slacker Radio device was announced.  I still like the name I bought, but it does now get mis-type traffic.  Should I let it go just because something more popular came along?  No, but I'm also not going to make any attempt to monetize the site based upon the mis-type traffic it receives.  Feel free to slam me on this one, but that's how I feel.

EVO Landing - Causing more harm than good?

September 19, 2008 @ 3:33 pm · Filed Under Domain Parking Alternatives, Google

I noticed that EVO Landing was up for 'Developer of the Year' for the 2008 TRAFFIC awards (which I'm looking forward to attending by the way).  So I did a little digging on them to see what sites they've developed.  I went to their web site and clicked on Network in the navigation bar.  Wow, some impressive names.  So I visited a few of the domains featured there and quickly realized they were obviously using some out-of-the-box techniques to develop these domains... as many of them have a similar look.

I personally browse with my Google Toolbar's Page Rank finder activated.  If you're not familiar, it basically just gives you the Page Rank of the page you're currently looking at.  I noticed that none of the domains had a rank.  Seemed odd, so I figured I'd do a little Google searching about a couple of the domains to see what I could find.  I personally own Spoons.net, so naturally Spoons.com sparked my interest.  So I figured I'd check that one first.  You use this query to find all of the pages Google has indexed for a given domain:

site:givendomainname.com

So I did a query for site:spoons.com.  Uh oh.  I got this dreaded response:

Your search - site:spoons.com - did not match any documents.

That's a Google banned domain ladies and gentlemen!  So I couldn't help by try a few more...

site:beef.com
site:findjobs.com
site:congas.com
site:motionpictures.com
site:motorcycling.com

All those and more - banned by Google.  Then I checked out their blog and started running the same searches for some of the domains names they list for sale on the right-hand side of that area.  Guess what - same result on many of them.

Why is this happening to them?
My guess is due to duplicate content.  The sites they're creating with these tools of theirs are full of non-original content.  Google doesn't really care much for that.  Sure, you can have some duplicate content on your site and stay in good standing with Google, but a web site that's 100% non-unique is a red flag to them... and they will ban your domain.

Now what's that domain worth?
As a developer that's been through the nightmare of getting unbanned and watching the after effects, it becomes a whole lot less valuable.  Many of the non-domainers who are spending top-dollar on domains are doing so in an effort to develop them properly and reap the benefits that a premium name can offer.  One major benefit is that domains ability to naturally rank higher in search engines given that its name is (or at leas should be) related to the topic it covers.  And given the fact that Google dominates the search space, the potential traffic on a banned domain has plummeted.  That means extra work to get Google to unban the site... and then extra time to wait for them to trust your content again.  I've seen it.  It's not a pretty process, nor is it a quick one.

Anyhow, think long and hard before you decide that your portfolio is ready to be rapidly developed using solutions like these.

Premium domains seem to get ranked in MSN very quick and easily.

September 18, 2008 @ 8:10 am · Filed Under Other Search Engines, SEO

When I first began developing premium keyword domains, I got very excited to see that my sites would get ranked within the first few results on MSN search very rapidly... generally within just a couple weeks after launching a site.  It no longer provides me with much satisfaction.  Sure, MSN is a big name, but their numbers (in my experience) are so far away from what can be achieved through Google and Yahoo.

There seems to be a few keys to getting to the top on MSN: (1) generic domain name that fits the keyword being search upon (2) a URL structure that also includes the keyword(s) and not much else (3) a window title that has that keyword and (4) a header tag on the page that holds that keyword.  So basically, the simple spammy site can shoot right up in those results rather quickly with the above mix.  I want to emphasize that the domain name seems to play a huge part in the above guidelines.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take a high rank in any search engine.  I'm just not excited to see it in MSN anymore.  They're search volume is just so low that it rarely has much of an impact on my bottom line.

So why did I make this post?
Okay, a little bit of a touchy subject... I've had quite a few people tell me how wonderful some developer has been for their site(s).  "We got to #1 in MSN in no time!"  I typically respond with "Hey, great news!  Have you seen a nice increase in sales or visitor volume?"  And a generalized response generally goes something like "Not really, but if it got to the top in MSN that fast, then Google and Yahoo should catch up pretty soon."  I hate to disappoint those people, and I generally try not to burst their bubble.  I do, however, pass along my contact info and tell them to give me a call if they don't end up getting the results they were looking for.

Shameless plug: I do offer a bit of SEO and web development consulting in addition to my personal and joint-venture development efforts.  If you would like to get in touch with me, feel free to use the contact form here on the site and address the first line of your message to me.  I'll get it.

Google Keyword Tool now shows search volume!

September 15, 2008 @ 8:09 am · Filed Under Google, Web Tools

Up until just a couple months ago, I was happy to pay Trellian about seventy dollars a month to use their Keyword tool.  I used it to understand how much search volume individual keywords were getting.  It was also providing me with the longer tail keyword phrases that were related to the keyword I was searching for and the approximate search volume for those long-tail terms respectively.  The obvious downside to Trellian was that their numbers didn't do much for me in respect to how much search volume a term was actually getting in a month.  However, having used that tool for quite some time, I basically knew how to read the numbers to get a feel for how valuable a given keyword was to me.  All the while I was essentially making best guesses at how much search volume Google was seeing for a given term.

The Google AdWords Keyword Tool has recently made my life a whole lot easier.  A couple months back they started including monthly search volume for keywords (both averages and numbers for the past month).  All of the guess work is now gone.  Not only can I see how much search volume a term gets, I can also see how stiff the advertising competition is for that term (essentially how valuable it is) and I am provided with a list of "related terms" for that keyword.

I do all of this keyword research when I am either considering a domain name purchase or once a purchase (or joint-venture) has been made and it's time to develop.  The search volumes guide me in the right directions.  And those related terms are a quick and dirty way for me to understand how Google looks at the term(s) I'm considering.  The related terms don't do much for me in determining how valuable a domain is worth, but they do provide me with the synonyms and related topics that I should be including in the sites I'm developing.

So now I can't help but wonder if the Trellian tool will stay useful.  My guess is that it will need to evolve a bit.  It was nice to be able to use that tool to analyze monthly trends by volume, but again, the accuracy of the number just wasn't there.  Maybe they'll find new and innovative ways to work with the newly available Google data and make me a subscriber again down the road.  Good luck Trellian!

Not Google banned... just Google penalized...

September 12, 2008 @ 5:57 pm · Filed Under Google, DVDs.com

Until this happened to me, I had no idea there was such a thing.  From what I've always read, and what I've always been told, Google either bans a domain or they don't.  However, after receiving little to no traffic from Google on a damn well developed (if a do say so myself) domain, a partner of mine started asking questions.  Somehow, he got the ear of the guy who heads up the web spam team at Google.  For now, I'm not going to mention his name in this post, but a quick search or two and you'll figure out who I'm talking about.

It turns out there was a long standing penalty on the domain DVDs.com before we ever got a hold of it.  It wasn't fully banned from the search index, but it wasn't getting traffic for any term that didn't contain the text dvds.com within it.  It seems that Google was "suppressing" the results to our site.

So, again from what I'm told, this penalty has been lifted.  Now, we're about three weeks after the fact and for the past 10 days or so we've stared to get some long-tail keyword traffic from Google.  So now the question becomes How do we know if there is a Google penalty on a site?  It's easy to identify a ban, because there are no search results found for a site:domainname.com search for that domain.  And at least with a ban you can ask to get unbanned.  But a penalty baffles me.  Not only can you not identify it being there, you don't even know who to ask to remove it.

I launched DVDs.com on June 1st, 2008.  By around mid-July I started questioning my ability to create a search engine friendly site (well, not really, but I was getting damn frustrated), because we were seeing traffic increases from MSN (of curse) and Yahoo, but nothing from Google.

I'd love to hear from anyone else that's gone trough the same thing.  Then again, maybe you're going through it now and you don't even realize it.

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